To quote Kunstler: “By a strange misunderstanding, Jasun thought I’d agreed to be a guest on his podcast, and I thought Jasun agreed to be a guest on mine — so we ended up doing two podcasts in sequence, one for each site.”
What’s more, Kunstler told me early in the talk that he was making an effort to include people outside of his own “community” on his podcast, hence having me on the show. This is an exact match for what I am doing.
Auticulture 
Wow. This is a podcast I have been thinking would never happen. Uncanny that your and Jim’s ideas of reaching out to people outside there boxes happens to be bridging philosophical islands in my head.