Last Sunday Doug & I & two of his listeners (Andy & Brandon) had a very enjoyable conversation (for me at least) about social activity, enlightenment, and the difference between being an artist and being a psychopath. I don’t show up for about 10 minutes or so, after which the talk goes on for over an hour. We get to the ultimate question, and then I have to take a pee; soon after that we wind up.
Give it a listen and let me know what you think. The full recording is here.